Possibly the Longest Year of Your Life

by wjw on January 19, 2010

Did I mention that I’ve completed the rewrite of Deep State, the sequel to This Is Not a Game? This would be the New Improved Deep State, Now with Editorial Input.

I expect the book will appear in a year or so. You’ll all have something to look forward to in 2011!

As an aside, I have an idea for an alternate title: Revolution Creep. What are y’all’s preferences?

Mark January 19, 2010 at 3:25 am

Revolution Creep sounds like orbital mechanics or Benedict Arnold. Is either appropriate?

john_appel January 19, 2010 at 4:19 am

If you're looking for potential positioning outside SF-genre space… Hell, I don't know which would be better. *Maybe* Revolution Creep. I think if you're envisioning being shelved with your other works, then Deep State may be better. But I'm not a marketing guy, just a humble infosec practitioner.

But 2011? Man, you haven't been kidding about publishing being a broken industry. Then again, I guess they have to put all the resources into true rush jobs like Going Rouge… (And yes, your sarcasm meter should be pegging about now…)

Mark Hughes January 19, 2010 at 5:14 am

I prefer sequel names that reference the original, and that seems to be popular in the mystery genre as well ("The Cat Who…", etc.), though there's plenty of counter-examples (Robert Parker's individually-named books). Maybe "The Deep Game"? "This is Not a Revolutionary Creep"⸮

Michael Grosberg January 19, 2010 at 1:15 pm

I like both, but Deep State sounds too much like a sequel to that other ten-minutes-into-the-future-thriller out there, Halting State. So I say, Go with Revolution Creep.

Mathew January 19, 2010 at 5:03 pm

I like both as well, but leaning towards Revolution Creep

Max Kaehn January 19, 2010 at 10:06 pm

Being well familiar with mission creep, I find “revolution creep” to be an amusing and intriguing notion; I’d go with that. (I work in Silicon Valley and This is Not a Game was very plausible to me…)

RJS January 20, 2010 at 10:09 am

I don't "squee" very often, but dammit, this may be one occasion that demands it. 😀 😀 😀

Charlie Stross January 20, 2010 at 12:39 pm

Michael Grosberg: the sequel to "Halting State" is titled "Rule 34" (yes, that Rule 34), and it's about 60% written right now. Although "Deep State" would be a really good title for the third book in that trilogy, should I live long enough to write it.

Actually, if $BOOK is a sequel to TINAG, I've got a gut feeling that the marketing department will find it easier to shift if it has a title that resonates with the earlier book. Putting 'em together, how about "This Is Not A Revolution"?

halojones-fan January 20, 2010 at 6:30 pm

Max K: Yes, that's exactly what I was going to say. I think that "Revolution Creep" is a great title–IF the text supports it.

Or you could go just use the title "Cutesy Internet Reference So Geeks Will Buy This Book" the way that some other authors do.

halojones-fan January 20, 2010 at 6:30 pm

PS john_appel: I've never heard of "Going Rouge", is it some kind of cosmetics-industry memoir?

john_appel January 20, 2010 at 9:51 pm

halojones-fan: Bah! Can't believe I got that wrong. Well, yes I can.

Although I'm sure some marketing wunderkind would still give that more push than one of Dubjay's books.

dubjay January 21, 2010 at 6:36 am

Okay, that settles it. The book's new title will be "Going Rouge."

I guess my editor's take on the matter was correct: "Revolution Creep" works for those whose first thought was that it was a take on "mission creep," not so much for those who didn't.

So I guess it stays Deep State. And maybe Charlie's third book will have to be something like State of the Union.

halojones-fan January 21, 2010 at 4:20 pm

If anything, Stross's third book should be "For Great Justice", the only internet meme to inspire the name of a US military operation.

Dru January 21, 2010 at 11:01 pm

"Collapsing State Vector" ?

Saladin January 23, 2010 at 11:47 pm

Probably way too late for my two cents, buuut: I believe I may have seen a chunk of this book? If so, I have to say that Revolution Creep seems to fit better with what I read… The concerns with (the) 'state' were there, but I dunno about 'deep.' Part of what was so interesting, in fact, were the questions posed about how 'superficial'-seeming phenomena could have profound political effects.

Michael Grosberg January 25, 2010 at 3:48 pm

I just found out Peter watts is writing a novel titled "State of Grace", so perhaps you three (Walter, Peter and Charlie) could bundle all three *state novels and sell them as a unit?

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